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Danee
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« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2008, 06:29:36 PM »

Here are some comments posted on that column fyi. They are on that site under comments.


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I find nothing therapeutic about the advice Ms. Richardson dispensed in this instance, unless the newspaper took extensive editorial license with the story and omitted many of the details. Instead of educating the young man on the many possible reasons for such behavior, it appears as though this particular licensed therapist is not imaginative, helpful or very experienced. The story serves as an excellent example how a university degree and state license may not translate into useful guidance and perhaps this also serves to educate the public at large to remain skeptical when beginning psychotherapeutic counseling. I have seen far better responses from the likes of Ann Landers and Dear Abby, so at least this Correspondent has something to aspire to
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Kelly Richardson's response does not take the naturist sister's lifestyle into consideration at all. Suggesting she practice her naturism when she is alone or just in her room could either send a message to the girl that there is something wrong or shameful about a very natural lifestyle or even worse, suppress her practice of naturism. While most naturists, in general do not want to make others uncomfortable, the boy should be taught that A) there is nothing inherently shameful or shocking about the human body, and B) there are people who choose to live without clothes. Taking Ms. Richardson's advice could lead to the boy concluding that naturism is bad. This leads to the making of a citizen who will be prejudiced against naturists and vote for representatives who will close naturist parks and beaches. I believe a compromise would have better served the family. Yes, out of respect to the boy, there should be times when no nudity is allowed. But out of respect to the daughter, there should be times when she can live as a naturist. If the boy chooses to stay in his room during those times, that would be up to him. This way they both share the house. The boy learns there is nothing wrong with naturism. The girl learns that while she has the right to be nude, she has the responsibility to make an effort to not offend others.

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Surprised to find Kelly's response to this question so unutterably negative. We might normally hope for our therapists to be openminded to different lifestyles, and yet her advice sounds based almost upon personal offense at the choice made by the sister in this case. In our society it is perhaps understandable Embarrassed Brother feels they way he does, but in failing to explain why his sister may enjoy being naked around the house Kelly's reply falls short of being anything worthwhile, indeed the boy really deserves better than being told his sister is an unforgivable weirdo.

So I dearly hope Ms Richardson's uncompromising advice won't cause unwarranted hostility for the family involved, and may I suggest she take this as an opportunity to educate herself about naturist lifestyles and nudity.


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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2008, 06:35:13 PM »

glad to see the comments are all critical of the therapists' advice.

someone who is supposed to be trained in helping kids' deal with things like self-esteem and healthy attitudes shouldn't have such a black and white view  of things banghead

that said, having open communication and house rules on this situation probably wouldn't be a bad thing for the family in question.
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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2008, 08:22:16 AM »

Richardson is the sort of therapist or counselor that is doing our kids more damage than good, We have them attached to our schools and its through one of these do gooders influence that our youngest daughter has gone all anti nudity by puting ideas that its dirty and wrong in her head. Whereas she was previously fine with her own and others nudity at home when younger. She is now never nude around others and shows she is a bit uncomfortable of others nudity in the home.
Now whereas if she had come to this opinion of her own accord i would consider accomodating her by throwing on a kilt at times but i refuse to have a long held lifestyle impinged on by reason of influence from an uneducated lefty.
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« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2008, 05:31:43 PM »

jeep, I do hope you've had some sort of discussion with your daughter's counselor! Telling someone that their/ their family's lifestyle is wrong could probably fall along the same lines as counseling them against their religion.
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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2008, 05:41:19 PM »

We have them attached to our schools and its through one of these do gooders influence that our youngest daughter has gone all anti nudity by puting ideas that its dirty and wrong in her head.

If that's what basically happened, jeep, then that is a disgrace ! 

I too hope that you have had a discussion with this counselor, even if the temptation was maybe :   punch
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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2008, 07:55:11 AM »

Unfortunately the state of the education system here is that the kids dealings with the councilers who get them in every now and then to "Chat" (Or interogate that they are being brought up how govt see fit and hunt for abuses) is confidential and parents have no rights regarding what goes on between them. We have a socialist govt here who have increasingly encroached on the rights of parents regarding the upbringing of our kids. Through the school they dictate what they can have in thier lunchbox, if you give your todler a tap on the bum when naughty you can end up in court and have the child taken into care, (Dont laugh, one father was investigated becouse he verbally chastised his son for playing up at a school sports event) and even if your 15 year old gets pregnant to a lad at school the councillers can organise an abortion and they have no responsibility to even let the parents know.
So no i have not been able to talk to the counselor who i imagine would love to turn the naturism into some sort of sex abuse and get brownie points the authorities that she had "Outed another pervert".
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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2008, 07:42:18 PM »

While I do not agree to the majority of Ms. Richardson's comments, there is one that I feel is good for all nudists to remember.

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Even though your younger sister is also a female, it also might make her uncomfortable if she is more reserved or modest. Let your mom know that not everyone feels "nude is natural."

I agree that most of the comments are inappropriate for a therapist, of all people, to be telling a (presumably) teenage boy.  This is an issue that, like many of you have said already, should be discussed within a family meeting.  The sister is not in the wrong for being nude, but wrong for trying to force her viewpoint on her brother.

I live in a similar situation; my mother is vehemently opposed to me walking around in anything less than a bathrobe, my younger sister is offended by nudity, even used in humorous instances.  Out of respect for my family, I only walk around the house nude when no one is home, wear a towel to and from the shower when my mother is out or asleep, and am fully dressed otherwise.
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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2008, 06:41:50 AM »

The solution is easy: make the sister wear clothes and make the brother be naked. Tongue
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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2008, 08:25:58 PM »

The solution is easy: make the sister wear clothes and make the brother be naked. Tongue

As I said, earlier, if this letter is real, I doubt this would work as he is probably a kid who turns the lights out when he takes a shower.  girl
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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2008, 09:47:31 PM »

As I said, earlier, if this letter is real, I doubt this would work as he is probably a kid who turns the lights out when he takes a shower.  girl


there's obviously plenty of them out there...http://www.zazzle.com/i_shower_in_the_dark_shirt-235899082821619586

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« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2008, 12:58:05 PM »

Almost like a never nude.

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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2008, 08:17:09 PM »

It's just a shame that the comments are needed to bring any form of balance to the article, which could actually make things worse if (on the assumption it's an authentic letter) the author showed it triumphantly to his mother only to see a barrage of criticism levelled against it surely isn't going to do his confidence any good.
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